Wednesday, July 29, 2015

Khatib Alexander, B Makov, and the Great Forgotten Tragedy of the Human Race

This is just a sculpture
Are Spiders our First Gods?  Not necessarily so, at least to Alexander Khatib / Hatybov (I’ll use Hatybov going forward) On this post, I’d like to move through prehistory; more specifically, I’d like to present a possible model regarding the years 45,000 BC through our calendar year 17304 BC.  The basics of this post is to touch on the previously existing Super System and System in place in our solar system, and the changes made to the existing Super System and System by an invasive species.

Again, as mentioned in the caption above, I am in no way stating any of this to be fact or absolute truth.  This information is my best representation of material currently published on line.  This is purely a summation of translated works from the authors of Alexander Khatib and Boris V Makov; I did not/do not know either of these people so I can not speak for the basis of their published ideas.  My intention is to summarize the works for an alternative potential and to generate new ideas.  Is this possibly high science fiction?  Heck yeah! 

More importantly, however, the work could very well be parallel to other myths and legends out there, and the more information we all share with one another, the more we could possibly learn.

With that being said, let’s get into it.   I’d like to include a few new definitions to the conversation for everyone’s reference going forward:

Cluster: a group of homogenous units that, in context to one other, act as an independent unit in aggregate, and share certain properties or attributes that are common to one another.

Star Cluster: a group of stars that are connected to one another via gravitational/informational “tubes” (see previous articles for discussion on tubes).  The connected stars share a common energy structure/model that manages the star cluster with specific ranges of octaves.

Galactic Cluster: an autonomous Super System (refer to “Hatibow’s God”).  It is endowed with a single functional software system, a single system of of management, the ability to create, control, and maintain complexes.  A galaxy cluster is linked to star cluster with complex links through interconnection tubes.

Civilization Cluster: a group of civilizations that share the same software / program parameters that manage specific stages of the development of civilizations.

Rough stuff once again, but I tend to think that you essentially have a cluster of planets and moons that have been pre-programmed to generate a return on some species of life.  In the case of Earth, you have a system of organization, management and control that keeps Earth and its biological structures moving in some predetermined fashion; through indefinite feedback between the origin of the program, the program feed to the Super System, System and Subsystem, civilization progresses over time and is managed through upper and control limits predefined by the initial program and managed by the Super System through Subsystem.  Good stuff, yes, but a bit in-depth.  I’ve attempted to put a visual together to best define the Earth Cluster’s initial program for everyone’s review and feedback in the conclusion section.                                                                                                   

The Key Clusters or Players of this Tragedy

 A) The Orion Cluster Group of Civilizations
  • In respect to Earth, the cluster responsible for the engineering of the first half of the first phase of proto-human development on Earth, or the phase of “preschool”
  • Engineering of Earth/Human civilization belonged to the management of Trustees from the Orion Cluster Group of Civilizations. 
  • The Orion Cluster Group acts also as the Home Stewardship Program to support Earth civilization
  • The Orion Cluster Group consists of 384 “training places”, or starter civilization planets
One interesting note about Orion is included on Hatybov's "Mount Kailash" article, where in he mentions the labyrinths below Kailash that store the legendary Orion Black Stone.

B) The Sirius Cluster Group of Civilizations
  • The Cluster responsible for the second half of the first phase of proto-human development on Earth
  • The Sirius Cluster acts as the “caregiver” to civilizations
  • The Sirius Cluster Group consists of 783 student civilizations
    • There should be 784 civilizations, but Earth is no longer part of this Cluster (more on that in the next section)
C) The Earth Cluster Group of Civilizations
  • The original makeup of our present solar system
  • The Earth Cluster Group originally consisted of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Phaeton, Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, Neptune, Uranus, and two unidentified planets and/or moons
  • The initial design and engineering of this cluster is still unknown to this researcher at this time

D) The Ebrovskoy Cluster Group of Civilizations - Эбровской Системы Управления
  • A dying Cluster Group hailing from the Constellation Ursa Major – Planet Sur
  • The Civilization had existed for 5.5 million years in what is commonly known as the Big Dipper constellation
  • The Ebrovskoy Cluster consisted of 1 Planet (the Sun), and 3 Moons
    • Ebrovskoy Cluster also included :
      • 12 type 960 major facilities
      • 54 satellites
      • 3862 attack objects
  • The Ebrovskoy live on the planet Sun; at the time, there were over 1,200,000 Ebrovskoy entities on / in the planet Sun
  • The Ebrovskoy species were a spider race up to a size of 4 meters (height/length?…not sure)
  • The Ebrovskoy, a species not uniquely capable of inclusion as an intelligent species of the cosmos, is searching out another species of life that they can merge with and move to higher form of life form
A Potential Timeline to 17304 BC

With various cluster civilizations defined, let’s begin the timeline:

45000 – 40000 BC – At this point of our history, we were already on this planet.  There is no mention of where we initially originated from, but I believe the literature states that mankind was on this planet previous to this time period, and Earth was created previous to this time period. The Orion Stewardship Group decides that our species is to be included in their Stewardship Civilization Program and takes ownership of orientation of planet Earth.  A predefined program is set in place by Orion engineers.

26844 BC – The Ebrovskoy Cluster initiates movement towards the Earth Cluster Group; the Ebrovskoy Cluster takes nearly 8,500 years to converge upon the Earth Cluster.  The belief of some researchers is that the Ebrovskoy had been actively seeking out an opportunity to join the community of intelligent life in the universe, and determined that the Earth Cluster was their best opportunity. I do not know why the Ebrovskoy  was considered/considered themselves as a "non intelligent species".  There is some discussion that the Spider brain, existing in lower Octaves, needed the human body and the Earth Cluster to exist in higher Octaves, to evolve as a higher life form in the cosmos.

18344 BC – The Ebrovskoy Cluster begins “attack” on the Earth Cluster.  The Earth Cluster is weak at this point due to the fact that Orion Cluster has begun the transition to Sirius Cluster; at this point of weakness, the Ebrov “attacks.”  Hatybov/Makov is explicit at this point that this isn’t a “Hollywood type battle”; rather, this attack takes place over the course of 1,040 years. It is at this point that the transition of Earth’s watch from the Orion Cluster to the Sirius Cluster that Earth is most weak in terms of Super Structure Defense.  Earth’s Cluster Super System defense mechanism, Phaeton, is occupied by the assailants from the Ebrovskoy Cluster.  The invaders occupied Phaeton, wherein Phaeton destroyed itself and 2 moons of Cluster Ebrovoskoy, 11 major facilities, and 1,200 attack objects.  The remains of Phaeton now reside as a meteorite belt between Mars and Jupiter.  The existing planet Sun and Lunar Moon are placed as new constructs of the Ebrovskoy Super System.

18300 BC – Earth is captured by the Ebrovskoy Cluster and its residents.  The Ebrovskoy Cluster begins the process of destroying the existing systems of control of planet Earth.  In the process, the Ebrovskoy Cluster begins the installation of the Ebrovskoy Land Management System of our solar system.  This includes :
  • Formation of satellites around other planets - not sure if satellites were part of convoy or if constructed from "scratch"
  • The dismantling of life support systems of other planets
  • The elimination of all inhabitants on planet Earth

17304 BC – Ebrovskoy Land Management System successfully destroys all living things on planet Earth and other planets of the solar system.  Complete control of the Earth Cluster is obtained; all neinertsionnye energy is captured, and Earth is surrounded by a convoy of the solar system.  At this point, Earth begins to drift back to the constellation Ursa Major.  Also at this time, the autonomous system placed on the development on Earth per the Orion program ceases to exist, and humanity is now programmed with the "violent" Ebrov control system.  It is at this point that the Ebrovoskoy begin the “great experiment” wherein the arachnid brain and motives are merged with the biological structures of the human species.


If the above presented scenario is true (and I'm most certainly not saying it is), let's consider what this all means:
  • Earth was populated with humans over 100,000 years ago; by who, we do not know
  • The Orion Cluster chose to include us in their civilization model/design program.  The Orion cluster group utilized existing control systems on this planet to take Earth and its human civilizations from point A -> point Z
  • Once Orion's program was put in place, the Sirius Cluster was to "babysit" Earth during an initial preschool phase of human development
  • During the transition from Orion to Sirius, the Ebrovskoy Cluster, hungry for inclusion into the "intelligent species" of the universe, and not able to evolve to into an intelligent species independently, moves into the Earth Cluster
  • The Earth's Cluster, despite Phateon defending the Supersystem as best as it can, is not able to defend itself from the Ebrovskoy; the Ebrovskoy Convoy claims Earth as an asset
  • Orion's program and complexes of control are overwritten by the Ebrovoskoy; living humanoids on this planet, Mars, and possibly other planets in our solar system are completely annihilated and exterminated
  • The Ebrovskoy Land Management System is installed within our solar system, and the "great” convergence of spider brains/motives within humanoid bodies begins
Two diagrams are listed below to attempt to model out the theoretical Orion Model and the alleged actual Ebrovskoy Model.

This is intense stuff worthy of an epic fictional novel.  If all of this were to be true, this is an epic tragedy of humanity.  We were to be a guided civilization set in motion towards some unknown end, and in a sad turn of events, a violent and intrusive species captured humanity, bent on becoming an evolved species, and their "violent" management procedures were installed in place, converting our original intent into something less than desired.  We are left with the remnants of something very different than our initial state or our initial design.  It would be interesting to overlay some of the legends of Sirius, Orion and the Ursa Major with the story line above.  Could Hatybov have reverse engineered his “story” with that of the ancient myth?  Or did he truly discover the story line of the planet in 1985 and began his war against against the Ebrov System?  I certainly don’t know the truth.

Up next, I will present the years 17304 BC to 1605 BC.  There is talk of horrendous experimentation, Great Floods, System overhauls, and UFO Object 440. 

And Once Again, I am not saying any of this is true; I am presenting the material as best as I am able to for an English reading audience and further discussion.  If it is indeed ravings of a fictional history, I’m ok with it.  The source material is specific, complex, heavy on math, and provides an incredible story, fiction or otherwise, presenting reality.  Until next time, drop a comment or line and I’ll do my best to further explain any of the above.  Thanks again for the read!


  1. Woaw great job, thanx very much for tour efforts.
    I really appreciate what you are doing bere, really thanx a lot!

  2. I just finished listening to your chat with Crrow777. When you talk about the tubes and octaves it brings to mind all the strange sounds that have been reported over the last few years. I wonder if these loud unexplained sounds are the Super System making a change ????

    1. It's a good question; Hatybov does have one in depth article regarding the use of Octaves (I think) to manipulate different types of earthquakes. I haven't had time to break it down yet, but I hope to get to it at some point. As for the weird noises in the atmosphere, tubes and transmissions could very well be a potential cause.

  3. Just heard your THC interview, good job! I've been a Secret Sun and Rune Soup reader / lurker for years now and I was happy to hear a new voice from a different angle on things strange and occulted. Please keep up the good work, keep on diggin'.

    1. Thanks for the comment! I should have an article on the pre genotype phase of humanity out this weekend.

  4. Thanks people i have to listen to his interview on thc and what i wonder is, if arachnophobia may somehow connected to such "enemy"?

    1. It could very well be - it is also interesting that there is some research with Eastern gods with 8 arms as a potential arachnid archetype. An early "shirt" with eight arms? Who knows...but anything is really possible in the Hatybov material.

    2. This was a good Interview on thc i enjoyed listening! Research of ancient depictions of spiders is very interesting and i will look into that and start from here
      Maybe i should first watch a classic dr.who episode called planet of the spiders ;), which also looks like to have significant signs of numerology in it - episode 74 aired in 1974 season 11 but i am a noob on this so i really don't know

    3. Thanks for the compliment on the interview; it was a bit nerve wracking. I haven't seen the dr. who episodes, but Crrow has mentioned it me in the past.

      here is something you might find interesting

    4. Thank you, every hidden source is appreciated and the russians seem to have a lot of these ;)

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  6. Hi there, you can email me at - looking forward to hearing from you!

  7. The Hundred Handers who fought the Titans on the side of Zeus...
    The Hekatonkheires or Hecatonchires (stress on the fourth syllable;[1][2] singular: "Hekatonkheir" or "Hecatonchir" /ˈhɛkəˌtɒŋkər/; Greek: Ἑκατόγχειρες, "hundred-handed ones"), also called the Centimanes /ˈsɛntɨˌmeɪnz/ (Latin: Centimani) or Hundred-handers, were figures in an archaic stage[clarification needed] of Greek mythology, three giants of incredible strength and ferocity that surpassed all of the Titans, whom they helped overthrow. Their name derives from the Greek ἑκατόν (hekaton; "hundred") and χείρ (kheir; "hand"), "each of them having a hundred hands and fifty heads" (Bibliotheca). Hesiod's Theogony (624, 639, 714, 734–35) reports that the three Hekatonkheires became the guards of the gates of Tartarus.

    1. Thanks +Pancholordofthecouch...are you seeing a lot of symmetry with Greek mythology in respect to the Hatybov universe?

  8. There are some striking echoes in Hatybov's material to Doris Lessing's 1981 book "Shikasta" wherein Earth is taken off course by a renegade species who feed off the negativity of humanity that they themselves have instigated. It may be worth checking out if you have the time. Also, similar to some theories about what the Gnostics were writing about in the Nag Hammadi texts. Once agin, sterling effort; many thanks.

    1. +Fox - thanks as always for the comment. I just added Lessing's book to order...thanks for the recommendation! As for the Gnostic stuff, still just beginning to sort it out and starting with Jung's sermons of the dead.

      One other area of research that I too am looking into that seems to be connected to Hatybov is referenced in "his" moon article; the authors are Christopher Knight and Alan Butler, and research is centered on "prehistoric measurement systems." More good stuff to get with time. Thanks again Fox

  9. Since 2009 I have constant piercing ringing at variable volume right side of head ..challenging

  10. One of many portraits of Akhnaten receiving gifts from the sun.

    This looks like an ad for the benefits of the latest downloads from the sun.

  11. The sculpture of a gigantic spider strikes me because it looks very much like a recurrent dream I had whan I was a young child : I used to dream of gigantic spiders like those chasing me on what looked like another planet made of sand deserts and stones. It was very frightening. Anyone has had the same dream ?

  12. have you read harald kautz ~vella,on spider like astral entities,working through nano bots via chemtrails,to feed off scaler energies.he explains a lot of the transhumanist agendas.has a pic of an astral spider e.t